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 Post subject: Andre's True height
PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 12:50 pm 
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It is widely known that pro wrestlers "billed" heights are in excess of their real heights. Until recent times, the wrestling term "kayfabe" was used to desribe the story, modus operandi, and statistics of wrestlers, refering to the storyline or exagerations that surround the business. Andre the giant's height was no exception. It is now known that guys such as Paul Wight(Big Show), Great Khali(Dalip Singh), Giant Gonzalez(Jorge Gonzalez), and other such entertainment giants, were all billed taller than their real height. Big Show, for example, was billed at up to 7'4", when the storyline was used that he was Andre's son seeking revenge against Hulk Hogan for his Wrestlemania 3 victory over Andre. In real Life, Big show has stood as tall as 7'1", however, he is closer to between 6'11.5" - 7'0" now, because of spine surgery and increasing poor posture, the same ailments that Andre suffered from in his late life. Great Khali has been billed up to 7'3", however, he actually stands a solid 7'1" tall. This has been confirmed by the Indian Bodybuilding association. Giant Gonzalez has been billed up to 8 feet tall, but his real standing height, as confirmed by the Atlanta Hawks and Argentinian basketball team, was in fact, 7'6.5".

There is WORLD WIDE speculation as to what Andre's true "peak" standing height was, and it was sparked by the discovery of a picture of him standing with Wilt Chamberlian and Arnold Schwarzenegger on the set of Conan The Destroyer. He appeared to be about and inch shorter than Wilt Chamberlain, and the picture was taken in 1983, when Andre was past his prime, height-wise. By then, he weighed considerably more than he had in the 70's, and his posture was beginning to be affected by slight scoliosis(abnormal spinal curvature) and a dowdger's hump at the base of the back of his neck. The journalist that leaked the photo was Dave Meltzer, a wreslting journalist who was famous for breaking "kayfabe" to report about the behind the scenes of pro wrestling. Dave estimated Andre's true standing height to be 6'11.5" based on a standing height of 7'0.5" for Wiltchamberlain, however, his analysis was flawed, since Wilt Chamberlain had been officially measured at 7'1.16" by the Guiness Book of records. This would have put a 1983 Andre at around 7'0" even. there have been numerous reports from other wrestlers, doctors who claimed to have measured Andre, and Andre's personal handlers and family members, that Andre's peak heightin the late 60's and early 70's was somewhere in the neighborhood of 215cm-218cm (7'0.5"-7'1.5"), and that he was indeed 6'10" at the time of his death, due to having had spine surgery to fuse vertabra together, and increasing posture problems caused by his medical condition, Acromegaly. Over time, Acromegaly, if left untreated, increases bone density and mass and makes movement more difficult and increases spinal curvature and bad posture, reducing the person's height.

I personally have examined hundred's of photos of Andre, from early in his career to late in his career, and based on that analysis, i believe his peak height was around 7'0.5" to 7'1.5", and most likely closer to 7'0.5" tall. he was definately around 6'10' at the time of his death, due to his disease Acromegaly taking its toll on his body, combined with the spine fusion surgeries he had. It would be nice if the creators of this website can visit the debate over on the www.celebheights.com forum, as the thread has had many thousands of posters, and do some research into his medical records to settle this once and for all for the Andre fans around the world. we would not think any less of him, since he is the ONE TRUE GIANT OF WRESTLING.

The argument over Andre's true height continues:

http://www.celebheights.com/s/Andre-The-Giant-2039.html


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 Post subject: Re: Andre's True height
PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:31 am 
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Yeah i agree its clear he was a true 7 footer i get so pissed when i hear people say he was only 6'9 i mean thats just ridiculous :S


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 Post subject: Re: Andre's True height
PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 2:02 pm 
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Andre_Voorhees wrote:
Yeah i agree its clear he was a true 7 footer i get so pissed when i hear people say he was only 6'9 i mean thats just ridiculous :S

yeah.. totaLLY REDICULOUS

he was 6'10" at his death, nobody disputes that, but that was with extremely bad posture from scoliosis brought on by his increasing bone desnity from his affliction, Acromegaly, along with a fused vertebra from his surgeries pre- and post wrestlemania. people have such a poor concept of how tall he is until he stands next to another legitimate 7-footer such as Wilt Chamberlain, because of his enormous head. he doesnt have the long neck and the pinhead that most 7 footers have. Sure, Wilt had him by an inch in 1983, but ANdre was already way past his prime physically, his condition had already begun to take hold. my guessis that in 1983 in that picture, he was around 7 feet even, seeing as Wilt was 7'1.16", and he was 7'0.5"-7'1.5" at his peak in the late 60's and early 70's


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 Post subject: Re: Andre's True height
PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 2:40 pm 
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Thank you aarod for the link. My name on that other board was "me". I have no issue with Andre not being 7'4". He was certainly over 7' peak height. Where is to be determined. What seemed so obvious is that when he was hunched over or on crutches is what some posters would try to use as a comparison pic for this man. What a joke. I am glad this board is here. Again to reitterate I am not claiming 7'4" Kayfabe, only 7'1.5" Peak.


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 Post subject: Re: Andre's True height
PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 3:32 pm 
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Andre's best friend Frenchy Bernard broke kayfabe and stated in an interview that Andre was measured at 7'0.5" at age 22 in Japan by a doctor while being diagnosed for his condition. Acromegaly if untreated destroys the body rapidly after age 30 because of constant secretion of growth hormones when the body is no longer able to grow in height. This wears down the joint cartilage and causes major problems to the body. After several major surgeries, curvature of spine, excessive adult weight gain (200+ pounds ) and very poor posture he was measured at 6'10 when he died in 1993 in France. The crematorium in France was not large enough to house Andre who was 6'10 and 555 pounds when he died. Andre had to be flown to the USA to be cremated. Andre when asked his height would say 2.18m or 7'1.5". Andre's trainer also claimed to have measured Andre at 7'1.5". Andre is believed by most to be in the 7' area in his prime and that he lost a couple inches in height over his life.

Here are some prime photos of Andre the Giant looking at least 7' with people of known height.

http://tinyurl.com/66joax


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 Post subject: Re: Andre's True height
PostPosted: Sat Dec 26, 2009 7:04 pm 
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Here is a an image of Edward Carpentier next to Andre, who is barefoot standing on a scale. based on the measurements of the scale( my doctor's office has the same scale and i took measurements from it, a basic fractional proportion can be derived to determine Andre's true height:


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also, here is a picture of Andre standing relaxed next to a wall of known measurment. (each cinder block is 8 inches tall with the bead of mortar. It can be derived from the picture, calculating a height boost of 1/2 inch(0.5") because of his footwear, that he stands somewhere between 7'0" and 7'1":

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and here is a picture next to 6'1.5" arnold schwarzenegger, and 7'1+" Wilt Chamberlain. based on photo analysis, Wilt is around 1 inch taller than Andre in 1983, when Andre's posture and health already started to decline, putting Andre at or slightly above 7 feet tall. The author of the photograph, David Melzter, makes the mistae of assuming a height of 7'0.5" for Wilt, which is actually untrue, since he was measured over 7'1" by the guiness book of records.

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